After surfing through 300+ comments, I must admit, I found some fascinating theories! Here are a few theories I found and my thoughts on them. Feel free to share your thoughts too in the comment section of this post! :)*WARNING :*
The following content contains spoilers for Sunrise and possibly Omen of the Stars.
Theory #1 - A Dark Future?
I've heard a lot of speculation recently about Ivypaw. Vicky Holmes (One of the Erins) seems to be hinting on Ivypaw possibly playing a dark roll in the books. During a Wands and Worlds Author Chat, Vicky was asked "Will Ivykit be Evil?" To which the author replied:
"VickyHolmes(A): She'll be pretty miffed that her sister is getting all the attention, that's for sure!"
It has been confirmed that Dovepaw is the "fourth apprentice" and she will be the final cat in the "Power of Three" prophecy. Could it be possible that Ivypaw grows dark because of jealousy? This brings up the rumor - Will Ivypaw be jealous enough that she teams up with Hollyleaf?
Remember Ashfur betraying his Clan because of Squirrelflight? Perhaps Ivypaw will follow in his pawsteps?
This theory, of course, is dependent on whether or not Hollyleaf survived the tunnels. (I have a suspicion she did!) Even if Hollyleaf is indeed dead, Ivypaw could make a dark character, perhaps not a full fledged villain, but maybe a misunderstood cat who could cause some trouble...
Theory #2 - Love is in the Air?
I cannot resist commenting on this pair brought up by Brightstar. Lionblaze & Cinderheart? It could be a possibility.
Cinderheart is a reincarnation of Cinderpelt. It was revealed in an Author Chat that Cinderpelt was in love with Firestar. Hmmm... Could some of Cinderpelt's feelings be inside Cinderheart? Firestar might be too old for her, but Lionblaze is similar in appearance to ThunderClan's leader...
However, after scanning the Power of Three series for possible LionxCinder hints, I have come up empty handed - er empty pawed. It seems like the logical mate choices for Lionblaze are Heathertail or Icecloud. (Vicky has hinted towards LionxIce) Who knows, maybe the Erins will surprise LionxCinder fans in Omen of the Stars... Keep a sharp eye out for hints!
Theory #3 - Tricky Relations?
Warriors fans have seriously wondered the identity of Firestar's parents ever since the hint dropped in The Rise of Scourge when Quince, Scourge's mother, comments on how odd it was that none of her kits inherited their father's ginger coat. Later the Erins revealed that Scourge and Firestar where half-brothers.
With the release of Bluestar's Prophecy, another character was introduced - Jake. A plump ginger kittypet with a keen interest in the forest. This lead fans to the belief that Jake was the father to Firestar and Scourge.
Unfortunately no other information has been revealed, so for now, this is merely a theory. Hopefully the Erins will shed some light upon this mystery!
(Thanks, Dreamstar for bringing this to my attention!)
Theory #4 - A New Threat?
Okay, I really like this theory that Silverstar thought up. Very original, and possible - take a look:
"I wonder if Brokenstar had a mate before he became leader. Maybe he has kits somewhere. Possible new villains? Because they've exhausted the idea of Tigerstar's kits being evil. Both of Tigerstar's sons are evil. So maybe they'll make Brokenstar have a kit that is evil. Just maybe?"
What are your thoughts on this idea?
-Sorrelpaw
Only four days until the release of The Fourth Apprentice & Shattered Peace!
43 comments:
what do ou mean by and shattered peace
Thanks for putting my thoughts up!!
Cool! That would be interesting if Ivykit became evil. . . It might be kind of like how Hollyleaf became evil. I don't think that she died in the tunnels. I think she will come back and maybe try and get revenge on Thunderclan, Leafpool especially.
-Wildstar
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well silverstar is a big hater of brambleclaw and she considers him evil but i wouldn't really say that both of tigerstar's sons are evil, just one of them.
Thanks for posting my thoughts!
sorrelpaw, have u ever noticed how many mistakes the erins make when writing the books? check out the cbox post for my realllllllyyyyyyy long comment about it :)
Brambleclaws evil?!?!? REALLY?!?DID I MISS SOMETHING?
I havnt read the "Power of Three" Series....
HES NOT RIGHT?!?
no! silverstar just considers him evil cause she doesn't like him.
I'm sure Brambleclaw has an evil heart. If he was truly good, why would he even have thought for a moment of killing Firestar to become leader? If Brackenfur had become deputy and his brother Thornclaw told him to kill Firestar (not that Thornclaw is evil, just an example), would Brackenfur even think of it? No way! Would Graystripe meet with his father (whoever that is) if he knew that he was evil and had murdered many cats before? No way! Either of them would make a much better deputy and future leader. Brambleclaw has also been unforgiving (to Squirrelflight when she tried to make up about the fight) and a bully (to Ashfur when Squirrelflight liked him). That's why I suspect that he is a traitor... Or at least a really annoying character. That's my opinion. Almost everyone else likes him, but I personally see him as stuck up and too easily offended. Sandstorm however... Now THERE'S a cat to admire!
Well, anyway, at least Hawkfrost is evil, Brambleclaw may be, Tawnypelt is part of ShadowClan, and Mothwing doesn't believe in StarClan. That latter two aren't evil at all, but you get the picture, the idea is old.
Thanks for posting my idea, Sorrelpaw! I'm so glad you're back! I've been missing this blog a lot. Sparkletail's Blog is good, but... Well, I've always liked this blog and the way you post. I'm going put a link on StormClan to this blog, it's great!
So, the question is... DOES Brokenstar have kits? Anyone currently in ShadowClan, I wonder? Or an exiled cat...
GASP!!! I just had a thought!!! What if... SOL is Brokenstar's son? Think about it... Aren't they both mysterious and deadly? Don't they both have somewhat long fur? AND yellow eyes? Could it be... Could it be that Sol had been exiled from ShadowClan? Maybe that's why he's interested in the Clan cats, and why he tried to take over ShadowClan... Just like his father? Is it possible that, even if he wasn't born in ShadowClan, that his mother was Brokenstar's mate and that she was exiled before giving birth? It's very possible! I'm going to look through my books tonight for more evidence to support my new theory.
~~Silverstar
ya ya ya but i do agree with you about sandstorm, great charachter. but you cant tell me you liked her at first when she was a jerk to firestar.
i think its not so likely that he was exiled more probable that he was brokentail son and brokentail had no idea about it
Wow Sorrelpaw, how do you find all of your information???
-Wildstar
Yeah, Sandstorm was a jerk at first. But once she stopped hanging out with Dustpelt she became my favorite character of all time... Next to Stormfur and Cinderpelt, that is.
Yes, that's what I mean, maybe Brokenstar never knew he had a son. You must admit, they do resemble each other... Hmm...
~~Silverstar
I like Sandstorm also, Silverstar. I noticed in the books, that once Sandstorm stopped hanging out with Dustpelt, she became nicer.
But personally my favorite cat is Jayfeather.
-Wildstar
Yeah, Jayfeather is... OK. Well, I love his special power, but I don't like his personality much. I think if he stopped feeling sorry for himself that I would really like him a lot more. At the moment, he's sort of on my undecided list.
~~Silverstar
Yeah, basically in every book, he is always feeling sorry for himself. Do you like that Firestar is dying in Fading Echoes? I think that it is time for Thunderclan to take on a new leader. . . What do you think?
-Wildstar
To be honest, I don't like Firestar anymore. I of course loved him in the first series, but after that... He's just too soft. He let the other three leaders barge into camp and order him around! If I had been in Firestar's place, I would have told them to get out or else.
It's strange, all of the current leaders seem to have problems. Blackstar is arrogant like all the other cats of his Clan, Onestar can never make up his mind and seems to have forgotten that it was Firestar who made him leader in the first place, Leopardstar's foolish pride cost her first deputy his life, and Firestar is way to soft with other Clans and kittypets. I dislike all the leaders right now.
Yeah, I do think someone needs to replace Firestar. I, as you probably already read, hate Brambleclaw and think he would make another bad leader. And if Sandstorm and Graystripe are too old to lead by the time Firestar dies, I think Sorreltail should become leader. Brackenfur is nice, but Sorreltail is more leader material. Many people think Lionblaze should become leader, but Lionblaze is just like Brambleclaw in the sense that he doesn't know where his loyalties lie. Lionblaze is nicer than Brambleclaw, but still, I don't think he'd make a good leader.
I would have wanted Hollyleaf to become leader before Sunrise, but I guess that's out of the question now. I still like her a lot though. She reminds me of myself (BEFORE she went evil) in the sense that she over-thinks things and likes to have everything perfect.
LOL I think I've finally found someone who I can debate with who won't freak about differences of opinion. I've met a few of those people... Online and in real life. It's no fun to talk to them, let me tell you. ;)
~~Silverstar
I totally agree with you. The leaders have all kinds of issues. Maybe that is why the Erin's want some of them to die, to refresh the leadership.
I can kind of understand why Firestar is so soft. With his kittypet roots, he isn't a very good leader. He should have been more tough than just saying "Oh, you need somewhere to stay? You can come live here!" He says that to basically any cat that sets foot in Thunderclan, I kind of agree with what the leaders said, how Thunderclan is too soft. Because, if you count the alliances, Firestar let in six loners/kittypets!
The cat that really annoys me the most in the books is Daisy. I mean, all she does is sit around in the Nursery, and worry about every little thing. She really bugs me. . . Does she bug you?
-Wildstar
I also agree that Sorreltail would be the best cat for the job of being leader.
-Wildstar :)
Okay...
Silverstar, I agree with your theory about the leaders sort of. I think that they all have issues, but I do like Firestar, even though I think he's too soft and I have lost some respect for him. Throughout all the books though, I have begun to respect Blackstar and Leopardstar, and even sort of like them. I guess I can just understand where they are coming from and how they run their clans. I have lost absolutely all respect for Onestar from the moment he changed from Onewhisker to Onestar.
Shattered Peace is the first book in the new manga series coming out the same day as OOTS#1, about Ravenpaw. The series is called Ravenpaw's path.
I think Hollyleaf IS alive(Vicky pretty much admitted that much in a chat somewhere), and I think she'll make a GREAT villain. I think she'll be the type of character that I love to hate.I think that Ivypaw will become evil and join her, but she will redeem herself in the end.
I love Brambleclaw!!! He is NOT EVIL!!! As much as I like Brackenfur and Graystripe, I think that as leaders, they would be too much like Firestar, as in too soft about the other clans. As much as I like Sandstorm, I don't think that she is leader material, and Firestar would never pick her as deputy. I think Lionblaze would make a horrible leader. His POV is just so boring to read.
Also, Jayfeather rocks!!!
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~Sparklestar/-Hollystar
hi, this is cherrstarluv and dapplepaw. i made a blog kinda like this one. i didn't know half the things that are the same with mine and yours. well, some of them i did know. so should i delete that blog or can we be warrior pals?
Oboe Chick - Yes, Daisy annoys me too. She's just... Urg. VERY annoying.
Sparklestar - But Blackstar was evil. He killed Stonefur AND followed both Brokenstar and Tigerstar. Leopardstar is way worse though. She thinks she's all that and due to her foolish pride, she didn't break her alliance with ShadowClan, resulting in the death of her deputy. She's still just as arrogant.
Sandstorm and Graystripe wouldn't be as soft as Firestar. Sandstorm has a spicy attitude a lot like Leopardstar, but the difference is that she is wise and brave. Graystripe is more willing to claw the enemy than Firestar too. Brambleclaw would be probably the third worst leader the forest has ever seen. That's what I think. He totally overreacts to everything, a lot like Onestar.
Speaking of Onestar, he used to be so awesome as a warrior, but now he's a total jerk. Urg. He gets on my nerves even more than Daisy... Not quite as much as Brambleclaw, but still, he's really annoying.
Maybe Brambleclaw isn't evil, but if you look back in the New Prophecy, you'll see a perfect example of him being a jerk to Squirrelflight and Ashfur when they were only having fun. There are many other occasions when he is horrible. I admit, in the Power of Three he IS a lot better, but I suspect that's only because he got his way with Squirrelflight.
~~Silverstar
Same old story Silverstar brambleclaw, in my opinion had good reasons for overeacting when he did.
I agree Silverstar. I am really curious who will be the next leader in Thunderclan! I think it may be Sorreltail. She would be the perfect cat for the job, and she fits for being a leader. Who do you think?
-Wildstar
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Tell me what you think!
-Wildstar
OK, I don't think I've mentioned all of these before, but here are the many reasons I dislike Brambleclaw:
Moonrise (I think):
I liked Brambleclaw alright until this book. Brambleclaw sort of slipped into leading the group naturally. I was fine with that. Squirrelflight and Crowfeather were apprentices at the time, Feathertail wasn't the leader type, Tawnypelt respected her brother, and Stormfur was too nice to take charge himself. But once when Stormfur tried to suggest taking a different path around the cliffs, Brambleclaw threw a fit and they almost got into a fight. Typical Brambleclaw, always thinking that he's right and nobody else is.
Twilight:
Brambleclaw starts meeting with his father Tigerstar in his dreams, KNOWING all along that he is a murderer and traitor. This just goes to show that either he is really, really fur brained, or that he didn't care.
When Brambleclaw becomes obsessed with his family, Squirrelflight gets mad. Not that she really had a reason, they were both in the wrong for a while there. But when Squirrelflight tried to make up, Brambleclaw rejected it and kept right on acting like her mentor. Squirrelflight then starting spending time with Ashfur to make Brambleclaw jealous (Dumb move, and cruel to Ashfur), Brambleclaw went around acting like he was already Clan leader when he wasn't even deputy yet. He was constantly nagging at and bullying them for nothing. He should have just accepted Squirrelflight's attempt to forget and forgive, but NO, he has to go around acting like he rules the world.
Then, when Firestar makes him get bedding since there are only two apprentices, he throws another fit. Overreacting again.
Sunset:
When he finally decides to make up with Squirrelflight (Whose selfishness and trickery had already caused damage to poor Ashfur), he starts acting like 'a perfect warrior' all over again.
But he's STILL meeting with Tigerstar, even though he KNOWS that it's wrong. And, it even says in the book something about, "He knew that if Squirrelflight ever found out what he was doing, she'd never forgive him.". Stupid furball, if he knew that, why would he keep it up and run the risk of spoiling everything?
Last but far from least, when he finally found out what Hawkfrost and Tigerstar were up to, he actually CONSIDERED killing Firestar. I know, I know, he didn't in the end, but a 'perfect warrior' or even a half decent cat wouldn't have even THOUGHT about it. Yet he still was praised for defeating Hawkfrost and became deputy, even though he was a whisker away from killing his Clan leader... Just like his father.
The Sight:
Brambleclaw is back to being 'the perfect cat'. I'd admit, if I hadn't read the New Prophecy and only read the Power of Three, I would have liked him. But he's still two-faced and too high and mighty. That's all I have to say on the subject... Unless I can remember more from the books.
Yeah, sorry for the long comment, I'm just trying to put all my reasons out there in one post. So, I don't mind other people liking him, but I think it's strange how everyone seems to overlook these facts about Brambleclaw.
~~Silverstar
silverstar answer this: if u had barly known your father and you wanted to know him better wouldnt you want to see your fatehr too? And he was good in the end
But he HAD known his father. He was an apprentice at the time Tigerstar took over ShadowClan. He got to see first hand how Tigerstar was a treacherous murderer. If he had any decency or brains, he would have avoided an evil cat at all costs, even if he was kin. Brambleclaw wasn't completely lonely either. He still had his mother and mentor in the Clan and his sister in ShadowClan.
~~Silverstar
oh silverstar, it is really midnight they started the journy. just so you no
Yes, I know that. I know the books in order and I own them all. But I think that argument between Brambleclaw and Stormfur was in Moonrise, not Midnight. They were still on the journey in that book too.
~~Silverstar
Yeah, Brambleclaw really started to bug me in that area too. Did you get the fourth apprentice???
-Wildstar
Here are a few things that are going to happen in the OOTS series.
firestar dies in faiding echos along with leporadstar(book 2)
(firestar's death;blackstar distraced Firestar while onestar snuck up from behind after injuring brambleclaw. lionblaze was busy killing leopardstar
onestar landed the final blow, but after that lionblazes true power came out. he destroyed leopardstar and made onestar and blackstar both lose a life)
All four clans were fighting because:they wer sick of firestar taking in homeless cats, but sol goaded them into it
Sandstorm is so sad after Firestar's death that she moves into the elders den
brambleclaw is crippeled and dosent become leader
leafpool dies in ambush leafpool is killed defending icecloud from breezepelt and harespring she knows how much lionblaze likes her she didn't want her to die
(Crowfeather dosent show a care!)
after leaf pool dies squirrelflight wailes then runs deep into the forest she was in so much pain jayfeather must have almost passed out from the sheer emotion
Lionblazr or Brackenfur will probably be leader
Sandstorm's attitude wnt be passed on from squirrelflight, squirrelflight isnt having any kits that much erin hunter said .The gap between her and brambleclaw is too wide for that
lionblaze's kits will probably have sandstorm and squrrelflight's attitude.
hollyleaf plans to invade the body of ivypaw from the realm of the dark forest(Just like her uncle's father)
dovepaws mentor is lionblaze, ivykits mentor is cinderheart
dovepaw can hear for miles thats her power and she can actually see wats happening miles away.
(appearantly there is some kind of problem with beavers in thsi series im not sure exactly what)
Im quite sure they are all true.
*GASPS* I wonder if all of that is true! Wow, if it is, that's going to be one exciting series!
Firestar gets killed by ONESTAR?! His old friend who he helped make leader?! OK, I'm not a Firestar fan, but that's a low blow. I wish fleas, ticks, death by starvation that arrogant, brainless, forgetful fur face! GRRR! Traitor! *Claws Onestar viciously*
Well, at least he cripples Brambleclaw. But still, great geese! I know Firestar has a thing about letting kittypets in, but how does that harm the other Clans? NOT AT ALL!
GO LIONBLAZE! Finally, a chance for Mistyfoot to become leader! I hope she'll be smart and put an end to the fighting. Come on Mistyfoot, you're one of my favorites, don't be a badger brain!
POOR SANDSTORM! She doesn't need to be an elder, not yet! Poor, poor Sandstorm, she should have been leader. :(
Leafpool dies... Well, I guess there's one way to fix the problem of her having nowhere to go. But that's really sad. About Squirrelflight too!
Brackenfur or Lionblaze... Not the best options, but OK I guess.
So Lionblaze DOES have kits, and Hollyleaf IS alive. Hmm...
Well, interesting, I am looking forward to seeing if it's true!
~~Silverstar
Wait, what about Graystripe? Won't be become leader? If they DARE kill Graystripe, I'll personally go over to the authors and slap them with a glove.
~~Silverstar
Oops, I meant HE, not BE. Sorry for the typo.
~~Silverstar
I wonder when some of the senior warriors will become elders. Some of them(Sandstorm, Graystripe, and Dustpelt) have been warriors for soooo long!! If they don't retire soon Thunderclan will just keep getting bigger and bigger! Have you noticed how Thunderclan has grown from in the first book and the fourth apprentice?! and Thunderclan has so much more cats then the other clans! I hope the Erins retire them or kill of some of the cats.... I know that sounds mean but seriously the clan is so big!!
Well i think most of it is true Silverstar
it was obvious all along that sandstorm would be in agony whenFirestar dies she would go into the elders den(its such a sandstormy thing to do lol)
I knoe i tottally had a spazz attack when i realised it was Onestar
but once again Onectar became such a ..(i probbably can't say thiss here so ill just use another word for it) he become such a "butt"
I think brambleclaw got a chance to become leader im not sure(im soo sure ill cry when firestar dies i cried when Graystripe left firestar and thunderclan to go to riverclan)
I love Mistyfoot she deserves to be leader her brother would be soo proud of her!!
Leafpool is in thunderclan and she dies afterwrds but i dnt know i always thought hollyleaf would kill leafpool!>..well maybe even she isn't bad enough to kill her own mother..or is she??
I think Graystripe could also have a chance to become leader but im sooo not sure because if firestar dies and sandstorm becomes all lifeless then who would support him?Brableclaw,Surrelflight maybe jayfeather or lionblaze and ofcourse Millie.
I hoce LIONxCINDER happens
parsonally i love cinderpelt and cinderheart(hmm..maybe that has omthing to do with my name lol)
and i really like lionblaze to!
GRRR!i have t wait til monday to read the next book!THAT DRIVES ME CRAZZZY!
0_o wow that was a lonnggg comment..lol sry!
BlackFOOT WAS evil, but since he became leader, I think that BlackSTAR has redeemed himself. I sincerely hope that none of what you said is true cinderstar, because i personally hate all of it.except we all know firestar will die, and im ok with that, hes getting kinda boring, and obviously sandstorm will go to the elders den after that happens, they are too much like 2 peas in a pod.
Blackstar is still very arrogant. I admit he's better, but all of ShadowClan are mean, with the possible expectations of Littlecloud, Tawnypelt, and Tawnypelt's kits.
~~Silverstar
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Silverstar, about you hating Brambleclaw... why? i know u listed all kinds of reasons but u could do the exact same thing about anycat if you tried hard enough. sure he spazzes a bit, but under pressure it kind of naturel. i mean who hasent freaked out ocasionally? also, about him meeting his father secretly, have you ever read city of bones? if so then you evendently wouldent like jace ether, wich kayla would think is blasphmasy (hes my fave charecter). i mean COME ON. show a little empathy. he never really knew his father, (KNOWING that he was in shadowclan isnt the same as actually growing up with someone), and even though he KNEW from what other cats said, that he was evil but even so, hed still want to meet him(if it were me I would). and tigerstar in the dark forest seems like he just wants to help, and as we know from th first sereise, he can be VERY convincing. when he was thninking "if squrillflight found out sh'ed never forgive me" he just knew she wouldent understand like YOU do not undrestand. im sorry but brambleclaw is on of my favorite charectors and i think that though he has flaws, dont we all? and about him thinking about killing firestar, we All have our self douts at times. ever since he wasreunited with hawkfrost he was so overcome with the emotion of the fact thathe had a brother, someone that would understand him, that he blinded himself. when he saw what hawkfrost was capable of he snaped out of it but only after a few moments of dout. thats about most of what i want to say, but im kinda running out of time here...
-Dawnstar/Shinestar
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